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Saints expect a loss of £5m
SAINTS have this morning announced the club is expected to make a pre-tax loss of about £5m for the financial year.
The board of parent company Southampton Leisure Holdings provided the Stock Exchange with a trading update, prior to releasing its financial results for the year ending June 30, 2008.
Saints' share price fell from 30p to 27p this morning in the wake of the announcement, a decline of ten per cent.
Finance director David Jones said: "The Company has seen a number of management changes during the financial year and with the preliminary announcement of the year's results to 30 June 2008 not due for 10 to 12 weeks, we thought it would be appropriate to provide all stakeholders with an indication of the financial results for the year just completed.
Click here for the full statement
"With the loss of the parachute payment from the Premier League and reduced ticket and commercial income, revenue for the year is expected to be around £14m with a loss before tax of around £5m."
The update said the results would "show an increase in the level of borrowings, which has necessitated extensive discussions with the company's bank and loan note hold."
However, it said both were remaining supportive of the current board's approach to the future.
PLC board chairman Rupert Lowe said: "The directors are aware that this is clearly not sustainable and are concentrating on reducing costs, however the directors remain hopeful about the prospects for the forthcoming season.
"Jan Poortvliet and Mark Wotte are very excited about what will be a young dynamic team determined to play fast and attractive football.
Watch the interview with Rupert Lowe - click here
"I hope everyone involved with the club will get behind Jan, Mark and the team."
Football club chairman Michael Wilde added: "This close season has proved to be a difficult time for the new board, with many major decisions needing to be taken both on the football and operating sides of the business.
"It has been important to act swiftly to arrest the financial decline of the company and we believe we have made major strides in this direction over the period since regaining control.
"Significantly, the board have also committed itself to the adoption of a new direction for the football club, which has been designed to stabilise, sustain and protect its long-term financial future whilst still allowing the club to remain competitive in football terms.
"We firmly believe that the future rests with our talented youngsters who, supported by experienced role models, will help create a team ultimately capable of competing at the highest levels.
"Management, coaching and playing staff are all fully supportive of the board's new approach and we are all looking forward to the new season with renewed enthusiasm and pride."
Southampton Leisure Holdings expects to release its audited accounts in October.
6:02pm Thursday 24th July 2008
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CommentPosted by: andy on 11:52am Thu 24 Jul 08
Lowe's comment about the team we will be supporting this season puts me in mind of the saying - 'and the meek shall inherit the earth...provided the rest of us let them!'
Lowe's comment about the team we will be supporting this season puts me in mind of the saying - 'and the meek shall inherit the earth...provided the rest of us let them!'
Posted by: Einstein, Southern Hampshire on 11:58am Thu 24 Jul 08
"Saints' share price fell from 30p to 27p this morning in the wake of the announcement, a decline of ten per cent."
Presumably, they added the "a decline of ten per cent" to that line, in case we couldn't work out that old chestnut of an equation, 30 divided by 3.
Then again, Echo readers aren't notoriously bright. Some of them live in Portsmouth, for a start.
"Saints' share price fell from 30p to 27p this morning in the wake of the announcement, a decline of ten per cent."
Presumably, they added the "a decline of ten per cent" to that line, in case we couldn't work out that old chestnut of an equation, 30 divided by 3.
Then again, Echo readers aren't notoriously bright. Some of them live in Portsmouth, for a start.
Posted by: dangerousMike, under the bottom of the rug on 12:02pm Thu 24 Jul 08
Where has all that lovely money gone? Still it just goes to show the gap between the haves of the Premiership and the Have nots of the rest of football.
Where has all that lovely money gone? Still it just goes to show the gap between the haves of the Premiership and the Have nots of the rest of football.
Posted by: Simon on 12:12pm Thu 24 Jul 08
But not as much as the loss expected from Chelsea FC....
But not as much as the loss expected from Chelsea FC....
Posted by: Graham, Herts on 12:20pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Simon[/bold] wrote:
But not as much as the loss expected from Chelsea FC....[/quote] I have posted before that Chelsea and M.U.have a joint debt of £700m plus although it has been pointed out that they are "managed" debts.
Dare we say that £5m is manageable or is that just tempting fate?
Graham's personal wealth has just shrunk by another £15 with the shares dropping.
No more meat pies 'til after Christmas
Simon wrote:
But not as much as the loss expected from Chelsea FC....
I have posted before that Chelsea and M.U.have a joint debt of £700m plus although it has been pointed out that they are "managed" debts.
Dare we say that £5m is manageable or is that just tempting fate?
Graham's personal wealth has just shrunk by another £15 with the shares dropping.
No more meat pies 'til after Christmas
Posted by: Simon, London on 12:37pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Simon[/bold] wrote: But not as much as the loss expected from Chelsea FC....[/quote] I have posted before that Chelsea and M.U.have a joint debt of £700m plus although it has been pointed out that they are "managed" debts. Dare we say that £5m is manageable or is that just tempting fate? Graham's personal wealth has just shrunk by another £15 with the shares dropping. No more meat pies 'til after Christmas[/quote] £5m is the pre-tax loss for the year not the total debt for the club!!
Graham wrote:
Simon wrote: But not as much as the loss expected from Chelsea FC....
I have posted before that Chelsea and M.U.have a joint debt of £700m plus although it has been pointed out that they are "managed" debts. Dare we say that £5m is manageable or is that just tempting fate? Graham's personal wealth has just shrunk by another £15 with the shares dropping. No more meat pies 'til after Christmas
£5m is the pre-tax loss for the year not the total debt for the club!!
Posted by: Obvious on 12:44pm Thu 24 Jul 08
This loss is totally in keeping with losses at other Championship clubs (who are not receiving parachute payments).
So all Saints have done, is experience exactly the same conditions that many other clubs in this league do. So it isn't as big a drama as the club is making out.
The difference with some other clubs in our league, is their major shareholders assist the finances of the club by putting their own money in. Something our major shareholders refuse to do. Why is that???????????
This loss is totally in keeping with losses at other Championship clubs (who are not receiving parachute payments).
So all Saints have done, is experience exactly the same conditions that many other clubs in this league do. So it isn't as big a drama as the club is making out.
The difference with some other clubs in our league, is their major shareholders assist the finances of the club by putting their own money in. Something our major shareholders refuse to do. Why is that???????????
Posted by: Saint Paul, London on 12:52pm Thu 24 Jul 08
wonder how the sharholders feel that bought at 60p when the Paul Allen thing was doing the rounds hoping to cash in......
wonder how the sharholders feel that bought at 60p when the Paul Allen thing was doing the rounds hoping to cash in......
Posted by: Barnacle Bill, with my feet well and truly on the gronud on 12:57pm Thu 24 Jul 08
All of you people who think Lowe is such an astute business man should note that when he came into the club we were relatively wealthy with major assets in terms of players and other resources, an international reputation, and healthy support. Where are we now? No assets left to strip, a bare playing staff, all our good players gone, 50% of fans no longer going to games, the club in debt and the share price a fraction of what it was and on top of all that we have become a laughing stock. That sounds like pretty astute business management to me. And it is going to get worse for only a naive fool would suggest that our team of older players (and not particularly good ones at that) and a clutch of boys still in the early stages of their development is going to keep us in this division. Not long ago I would get very angry with Lowe's leadership now I am heartbroken at what he has done to our great club. Before any one tells me that I am not wanted at St Mary's because I am being negative (for which read realistic) about what has happened you better check out whether Lowe agrees with you. I think he wants me to be there for he wants my money despite the fact that I loathe him. I love my club and the team and all my fellow fans. What I don’t like is the way our club has been wrecked and that is down to Lowe. It is impossible for anyone to claim that they love the Saints and in the same breath say they support Lowe (unless of course you are paid to say it as part of your PR brief).
All of you people who think Lowe is such an astute business man should note that when he came into the club we were relatively wealthy with major assets in terms of players and other resources, an international reputation, and healthy support. Where are we now? No assets left to strip, a bare playing staff, all our good players gone, 50% of fans no longer going to games, the club in debt and the share price a fraction of what it was and on top of all that we have become a laughing stock. That sounds like pretty astute business management to me. And it is going to get worse for only a naive fool would suggest that our team of older players (and not particularly good ones at that) and a clutch of boys still in the early stages of their development is going to keep us in this division. Not long ago I would get very angry with Lowe's leadership now I am heartbroken at what he has done to our great club. Before any one tells me that I am not wanted at St Mary's because I am being negative (for which read realistic) about what has happened you better check out whether Lowe agrees with you. I think he wants me to be there for he wants my money despite the fact that I loathe him. I love my club and the team and all my fellow fans. What I don’t like is the way our club has been wrecked and that is down to Lowe. It is impossible for anyone to claim that they love the Saints and in the same breath say they support Lowe (unless of course you are paid to say it as part of your PR brief).
Posted by: Martin Betts, Suffolk on 12:59pm Thu 24 Jul 08
Great timing, let's get shot of any talent left at the club before the season starts, we've had this every year for a few seasons now so i'm not at all surprised.
Our only hope is that Jan the man can unearth some more talent for next seasons summer sale.
Great timing, let's get shot of any talent left at the club before the season starts, we've had this every year for a few seasons now so i'm not at all surprised.
Our only hope is that Jan the man can unearth some more talent for next seasons summer sale.
Posted by: Sceptic on 1:02pm Thu 24 Jul 08
So what has Lowe & Wilde done to address the fact we now have 9,500 season ticket holders? A figure lower than we even had at the Dell!
Surely to make more money and improve cashflow, the best way is to pack out the stadium by making ticket prices more attractive? But that sort of thinking is alien to Rupert, he'd rather have crowds of 15,000 paying full price than 32,000 paying half price.
I'm fully expecting the emotional blackmail to be laid on thick and fast from our rich friends on the board telling fans that it's OUR FAULT the club is in a mess.
So what has Lowe & Wilde done to address the fact we now have 9,500 season ticket holders? A figure lower than we even had at the Dell!
Surely to make more money and improve cashflow, the best way is to pack out the stadium by making ticket prices more attractive? But that sort of thinking is alien to Rupert, he'd rather have crowds of 15,000 paying full price than 32,000 paying half price.
I'm fully expecting the emotional blackmail to be laid on thick and fast from our rich friends on the board telling fans that it's OUR FAULT the club is in a mess.
Posted by: Lost Soul, a former Saints fan never to return on 1:10pm Thu 24 Jul 08
The rot started with Askham. He was clueless too. The next ten years are going to be awful as we struggle to survive never mind get promoted and if we were would you want lowe to be chairman given his track record last time?
The rot started with Askham. He was clueless too. The next ten years are going to be awful as we struggle to survive never mind get promoted and if we were would you want lowe to be chairman given his track record last time?
Posted by: Question on 1:12pm Thu 24 Jul 08
This announcement has seen the club's share price drop 10% to 27p. Why did they need to make an announcement now? There's no statutory requirement to do so.
There is definitely something fishy going on somewhere between Lowe and Wilde.
Are they driving down the share price to make it cheaper for them to buy more shares to strengthen their position? Either to profit from a takeover (some hope) or to make it almost impossible to ever get shot of them no matter how bad a job they do?
This doesn't add up. Once again, our club is being toyed with by people who do not have it's best interests at heart.
This announcement has seen the club's share price drop 10% to 27p. Why did they need to make an announcement now? There's no statutory requirement to do so.
There is definitely something fishy going on somewhere between Lowe and Wilde.
Are they driving down the share price to make it cheaper for them to buy more shares to strengthen their position? Either to profit from a takeover (some hope) or to make it almost impossible to ever get shot of them no matter how bad a job they do?
This doesn't add up. Once again, our club is being toyed with by people who do not have it's best interests at heart.
Posted by: Graham, Herts on 1:22pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Simon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Simon[/bold] wrote: But not as much as the loss expected from Chelsea FC....[/quote] I have posted before that Chelsea and M.U.have a joint debt of £700m plus although it has been pointed out that they are "managed" debts. Dare we say that £5m is manageable or is that just tempting fate? Graham's personal wealth has just shrunk by another £15 with the shares dropping. No more meat pies 'til after Christmas[/quote] £5m is the pre-tax loss for the year not the total debt for the club!![/quote] Having a bad day. Many thanks
Simon wrote:
Graham wrote: Simon wrote: But not as much as the loss expected from Chelsea FC....
I have posted before that Chelsea and M.U.have a joint debt of £700m plus although it has been pointed out that they are "managed" debts. Dare we say that £5m is manageable or is that just tempting fate? Graham's personal wealth has just shrunk by another £15 with the shares dropping. No more meat pies 'til after Christmas
£5m is the pre-tax loss for the year not the total debt for the club!!
Having a bad day. Many thanks
Posted by: Saint Stephen, fareham on 1:27pm Thu 24 Jul 08
Lowe out and take the Dutch donkey with you[/bold] , please leave now or thire wont be a club for anyone to support.
Lowe out and take the Dutch donkey with you , please leave now or thire wont be a club for anyone to support.
Posted by: Football Fan on 1:31pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Barnacle Bill[/bold] wrote:
All of you people who think Lowe is such an astute business man should note that when he came into the club we were relatively wealthy with major assets in terms of players and other resources, an international reputation, and healthy support. Where are we now? No assets left to strip, a bare playing staff, all our good players gone, 50% of fans no longer going to games, the club in debt and the share price a fraction of what it was and on top of all that we have become a laughing stock. That sounds like pretty astute business management to me. And it is going to get worse for only a naive fool would suggest that our team of older players (and not particularly good ones at that) and a clutch of boys still in the early stages of their development is going to keep us in this division. Not long ago I would get very angry with Lowe\'s leadership now I am heartbroken at what he has done to our great club. Before any one tells me that I am not wanted at St Mary\'s because I am being negative (for which read realistic) about what has happened you better check out whether Lowe agrees with you. I think he wants me to be there for he wants my money despite the fact that I loathe him. I love my club and the team and all my fellow fans. What I don’t like is the way our club has been wrecked and that is down to Lowe. It is impossible for anyone to claim that they love the Saints and in the same breath say they support Lowe (unless of course you are paid to say it as part of your PR brief). [/quote] The same applies to dozens of other clubs too, it is the problem with football in general at the moment, the rich clubs get richer, the rest struggle to survive.
Blame Murdoch and UEFA before you blame Lowe.
Barnacle Bill wrote:
All of you people who think Lowe is such an astute business man should note that when he came into the club we were relatively wealthy with major assets in terms of players and other resources, an international reputation, and healthy support. Where are we now? No assets left to strip, a bare playing staff, all our good players gone, 50% of fans no longer going to games, the club in debt and the share price a fraction of what it was and on top of all that we have become a laughing stock. That sounds like pretty astute business management to me. And it is going to get worse for only a naive fool would suggest that our team of older players (and not particularly good ones at that) and a clutch of boys still in the early stages of their development is going to keep us in this division. Not long ago I would get very angry with Lowe\'s leadership now I am heartbroken at what he has done to our great club. Before any one tells me that I am not wanted at St Mary\'s because I am being negative (for which read realistic) about what has happened you better check out whether Lowe agrees with you. I think he wants me to be there for he wants my money despite the fact that I loathe him. I love my club and the team and all my fellow fans. What I don’t like is the way our club has been wrecked and that is down to Lowe. It is impossible for anyone to claim that they love the Saints and in the same breath say they support Lowe (unless of course you are paid to say it as part of your PR brief).
The same applies to dozens of other clubs too, it is the problem with football in general at the moment, the rich clubs get richer, the rest struggle to survive.
Blame Murdoch and UEFA before you blame Lowe.
Posted by: Aaron Dear, Southampton on 1:32pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Sceptic[/bold] wrote:
So what has Lowe & Wilde done to address the fact we now have 9,500 season ticket holders? A figure lower than we even had at the Dell! Surely to make more money and improve cashflow, the best way is to pack out the stadium by making ticket prices more attractive? But that sort of thinking is alien to Rupert, he'd rather have crowds of 15,000 paying full price than 32,000 paying half price. I'm fully expecting the emotional blackmail to be laid on thick and fast from our rich friends on the board telling fans that it's OUR FAULT the club is in a mess.[/quote] ummm, isn't that what we did last year? Reduced season ticket prices to "Pack out the stadium" and we made a £5m loss.
We have 15,000 fans who will watch week in and week out, but we will only get another 15,000 in when we are in the top 3 or in the Premiership, regarless of price. We are not Leeds or Man City.
Sceptic wrote:
So what has Lowe & Wilde done to address the fact we now have 9,500 season ticket holders? A figure lower than we even had at the Dell! Surely to make more money and improve cashflow, the best way is to pack out the stadium by making ticket prices more attractive? But that sort of thinking is alien to Rupert, he'd rather have crowds of 15,000 paying full price than 32,000 paying half price. I'm fully expecting the emotional blackmail to be laid on thick and fast from our rich friends on the board telling fans that it's OUR FAULT the club is in a mess.
ummm, isn't that what we did last year? Reduced season ticket prices to "Pack out the stadium" and we made a £5m loss.
We have 15,000 fans who will watch week in and week out, but we will only get another 15,000 in when we are in the top 3 or in the Premiership, regarless of price. We are not Leeds or Man City.
Posted by: Graham, Herts on 1:33pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Sceptic[/bold] wrote:
So what has Lowe & Wilde done to address the fact we now have 9,500 season ticket holders? A figure lower than we even had at the Dell! Surely to make more money and improve cashflow, the best way is to pack out the stadium by making ticket prices more attractive? But that sort of thinking is alien to Rupert, he'd rather have crowds of 15,000 paying full price than 32,000 paying half price. I'm fully expecting the emotional blackmail to be laid on thick and fast from our rich friends on the board telling fans that it's OUR FAULT the club is in a mess.[/quote] Simply don't believe that Woopert would opt for your scenario.
32,000 coming into the ground will sell more pies, more drinks, more programmes, more trinklets from the shop.
Will also look better in front of the occasional cameras and will provide a more vocal support as needed.
Where I do agree with you is that they should do something to improve sales.
Logic dictates that if they don't sell then the price is too high for what's on offer.
If Woopert says that people must pay £20 per match (or whatever) and the people say NO then everyone loses
Sceptic wrote:
So what has Lowe & Wilde done to address the fact we now have 9,500 season ticket holders? A figure lower than we even had at the Dell! Surely to make more money and improve cashflow, the best way is to pack out the stadium by making ticket prices more attractive? But that sort of thinking is alien to Rupert, he'd rather have crowds of 15,000 paying full price than 32,000 paying half price. I'm fully expecting the emotional blackmail to be laid on thick and fast from our rich friends on the board telling fans that it's OUR FAULT the club is in a mess.
Simply don't believe that Woopert would opt for your scenario.
32,000 coming into the ground will sell more pies, more drinks, more programmes, more trinklets from the shop.
Will also look better in front of the occasional cameras and will provide a more vocal support as needed.
Where I do agree with you is that they should do something to improve sales.
Logic dictates that if they don't sell then the price is too high for what's on offer.
If Woopert says that people must pay £20 per match (or whatever) and the people say NO then everyone loses
Posted by: dangerousMike, living in a bin now, bloody credit crunch on 1:42pm Thu 24 Jul 08
I want a team full of English players and at the moment this is what we are getting. I want a team that plays open and attacking football and at the moment this is what we are getting. I want the big earners gone from the squad in order to keep the club afloat and at the moment this is what we are getting. I want Rupert Lowe gone, away from the club, away from the Plc, away from the city...
Fufill these requirements and price tickets so they are competitive with other attractions in the area (not other football teams) and fans will return. We have always struggled to fill the stadium as the south coast is blessed with things to do other than just watch football. I would suggest that £15 a game would be reasonable as it is in line with Hampshire's price for a 20/20 game.
I want a team full of English players and at the moment this is what we are getting. I want a team that plays open and attacking football and at the moment this is what we are getting. I want the big earners gone from the squad in order to keep the club afloat and at the moment this is what we are getting. I want Rupert Lowe gone, away from the club, away from the Plc, away from the city...
Fufill these requirements and price tickets so they are competitive with other attractions in the area (not other football teams) and fans will return. We have always struggled to fill the stadium as the south coast is blessed with things to do other than just watch football. I would suggest that £15 a game would be reasonable as it is in line with Hampshire's price for a 20/20 game.
Posted by: Loyal on 2:28pm Thu 24 Jul 08
I am just relieved Lowe is at the helm now.At least he is capable of steadying our financial crisis.
And with the Dutch guys in charge we know there is a long term plan to turn things around on the pitch which will,of course, eventually help our financial position.
I am just relieved Lowe is at the helm now.At least he is capable of steadying our financial crisis.
And with the Dutch guys in charge we know there is a long term plan to turn things around on the pitch which will,of course, eventually help our financial position.
Posted by: Pete wynn, Durley on 2:31pm Thu 24 Jul 08
I'm sorry but i do find this funny..
Southampton are a SMALL club and they should be non league. So it's no wonder they are in debt.
I hope they go into administration - That would be really amusing.
Play up Pompey
I'm sorry but i do find this funny..
Southampton are a SMALL club and they should be non league. So it's no wonder they are in debt.
I hope they go into administration - That would be really amusing.
Play up Pompey
Posted by: Saint Stephen, fareham on 2:37pm Thu 24 Jul 08
Lowe out and take the Dutch donkey with you , please leave now or thire wont be a club for anyone to support.
Lowe out and take the Dutch donkey with you , please leave now or thire wont be a club for anyone to support.
Posted by: Solent Saint, Netley on 2:39pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Saint Stephen[/bold] wrote:
Lowe out and take the Dutch donkey with you[/bold] , please leave now or thire wont be a club for anyone to support.[/quote] Day two of the school holidays!
Saint Stephen wrote:
Lowe out and take the Dutch donkey with you , please leave now or thire wont be a club for anyone to support.
Day two of the school holidays!
Posted by: saint stephen, fareham on 2:39pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Loyal[/bold] wrote:
I am just relieved Lowe is at the helm now.At least he is capable of steadying our financial crisis. And with the Dutch guys in charge we know there is a long term plan to turn things around on the pitch which will,of course, eventually help our financial position.[/quote] Lowe out and take the Dutch donkey with you , please leave now or thire wont be a club for anyone to support.
Loyal wrote:
I am just relieved Lowe is at the helm now.At least he is capable of steadying our financial crisis. And with the Dutch guys in charge we know there is a long term plan to turn things around on the pitch which will,of course, eventually help our financial position.
Lowe out and take the Dutch donkey with you , please leave now or thire wont be a club for anyone to support.
Posted by: Mmmmm, here, there, everwhere on 2:41pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Blind Fool[/bold] wrote:
I would rather have the club in administration than have that @rse running the club. Lowe is a cancer that is killing SFC.[/quote] So to stop Lowe 'killing' SFC you would erm.... 'kill' SFC?
Interesting argument you have there.
Blind Fool wrote:
I would rather have the club in administration than have that @rse running the club. Lowe is a cancer that is killing SFC.
So to stop Lowe 'killing' SFC you would erm.... 'kill' SFC?
Interesting argument you have there.
Posted by: Saints Fan on 2:42pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Blind Fool[/bold] wrote:
I would rather have the club in administration than have that @rse running the club. Lowe is a cancer that is killing SFC.[/quote] That is the exact attitude taht got us in the mess.
No one man is bigger than the club, support the club and it will rise again.
People who are staying away are not hurting Lowe thay are hurting THEIR club.
Blind Fool wrote:
I would rather have the club in administration than have that @rse running the club. Lowe is a cancer that is killing SFC.
That is the exact attitude taht got us in the mess.
No one man is bigger than the club, support the club and it will rise again.
People who are staying away are not hurting Lowe thay are hurting THEIR club.
Posted by: Famished, Hungary on 2:45pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Blind Fool[/bold] wrote:
I would rather have the club in administration than have that @rse running the club. Lowe is a cancer that is killing SFC.[/quote] Did you say KFC?
Blind Fool wrote:
I would rather have the club in administration than have that @rse running the club. Lowe is a cancer that is killing SFC.
Did you say KFC?
Posted by: the vengeful cabbage, patched into the sky on 2:47pm Thu 24 Jul 08
Breaking news, I just lost a pound down the back of the sofa! This is more important than the fact that some idiot accountant let the club get itself into this mess. And still nobody has explained how the club managed to loose the £20million + in transfer fees. We are being taken for idiots by some beetroot faced arse biscuit.
Breaking news, I just lost a pound down the back of the sofa! This is more important than the fact that some idiot accountant let the club get itself into this mess. And still nobody has explained how the club managed to loose the £20million + in transfer fees. We are being taken for idiots by some beetroot faced arse biscuit.
Posted by: Pete Lost on 2:48pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Pete wynn[/bold] wrote:
I'm sorry but i do find this funny.. Southampton are a SMALL club and they should be non league. So it's no wonder they are in debt. I hope they go into administration - That would be really amusing. Play up Pompey [/quote] Pompey isn't exactly a "big" club is it?
In comparison to Southampton, by your reckoning, then shouldn't Pompey be a Saturday afternoon pub team?
Pete wynn wrote:
I'm sorry but i do find this funny.. Southampton are a SMALL club and they should be non league. So it's no wonder they are in debt. I hope they go into administration - That would be really amusing. Play up Pompey
Pompey isn't exactly a "big" club is it?
In comparison to Southampton, by your reckoning, then shouldn't Pompey be a Saturday afternoon pub team?
Posted by: saint stephen, Fareham on 2:49pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Saints Fan[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Blind Fool[/bold] wrote: I would rather have the club in administration than have that @rse running the club. Lowe is a cancer that is killing SFC.[/quote] That is the exact attitude taht got us in the mess. No one man is bigger than the club, support the club and it will rise again. People who are staying away are not hurting Lowe thay are hurting THEIR club. [/quote] Ive supported the club over 40 years. This is the first time in 30 years that I will not renew my season ticket. Lowe leave ane leave now.
Saints Fan wrote:
Blind Fool wrote: I would rather have the club in administration than have that @rse running the club. Lowe is a cancer that is killing SFC.
That is the exact attitude taht got us in the mess. No one man is bigger than the club, support the club and it will rise again. People who are staying away are not hurting Lowe thay are hurting THEIR club.
Ive supported the club over 40 years. This is the first time in 30 years that I will not renew my season ticket. Lowe leave ane leave now.
Posted by: Accountant on 2:51pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]the vengeful cabbage[/bold] wrote:
Breaking news, I just lost a pound down the back of the sofa! This is more important than the fact that some idiot accountant let the club get itself into this mess. And still nobody has explained how the club managed to loose the £20million + in transfer fees. We are being taken for idiots by some beetroot faced arse biscuit.[/quote] Not sure about this.
With rising costs in terms of bank borrowings and inflation.. i can hazard a guess where the money went.
Did you think SFC had money to spare when they built the stadium?
the vengeful cabbage wrote:
Breaking news, I just lost a pound down the back of the sofa! This is more important than the fact that some idiot accountant let the club get itself into this mess. And still nobody has explained how the club managed to loose the £20million + in transfer fees. We are being taken for idiots by some beetroot faced arse biscuit.
Not sure about this.
With rising costs in terms of bank borrowings and inflation.. i can hazard a guess where the money went.
Did you think SFC had money to spare when they built the stadium?
Posted by: Egomaniac, Southampton on 2:54pm Thu 24 Jul 08
Saint Stephen:
As I posted yesterday, you have the debating ability of a frozen pea pea, the vocabulary of a 1 year old, and still you resort to name calling of someone you know absolutely nothing about.
Congratulations - in your case that's progress!
Saint Stephen:
As I posted yesterday, you have the debating ability of a frozen pea pea, the vocabulary of a 1 year old, and still you resort to name calling of someone you know absolutely nothing about.
Congratulations - in your case that's progress!
Posted by: Sick of the Lowe luvvy spin, from PR guys for these people aint fans on 3:01pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Football Fan[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Barnacle Bill[/bold] wrote: All of you people who think Lowe is such an astute business man should note that when he came into the club we were relatively wealthy with major assets in terms of players and other resources, an international reputation, and healthy support. Where are we now? No assets left to strip, a bare playing staff, all our good players gone, 50% of fans no longer going to games, the club in debt and the share price a fraction of what it was and on top of all that we have become a laughing stock. That sounds like pretty astute business management to me. And it is going to get worse for only a naive fool would suggest that our team of older players (and not particularly good ones at that) and a clutch of boys still in the early stages of their development is going to keep us in this division. Not long ago I would get very angry with Lowe\'s leadership now I am heartbroken at what he has done to our great club. Before any one tells me that I am not wanted at St Mary\'s because I am being negative (for which read realistic) about what has happened you better check out whether Lowe agrees with you. I think he wants me to be there for he wants my money despite the fact that I loathe him. I love my club and the team and all my fellow fans. What I don’t like is the way our club has been wrecked and that is down to Lowe. It is impossible for anyone to claim that they love the Saints and in the same breath say they support Lowe (unless of course you are paid to say it as part of your PR brief). [/quote] The same applies to dozens of other clubs too, it is the problem with football in general at the moment, the rich clubs get richer, the rest struggle to survive. Blame Murdoch and UEFA before you blame Lowe. [/quote] We were part of that Murdoch gravy train and doing well except a very poor series of management decisions by you know who got us pushed off of it. We are a club in many ways similar to Spurs and they have survived and so should we have done. You can put what ever spin and twist you like on it but we are where we are thanks to Rupert Lowe and no one else. His presence at SFC is dividing the clubs fan base and further adding to its problems. You people with your heads in the sand do not know how much he is hated. I go to every game and I cheer and shout fot the team but I do not buy anything other than my ticket. Rupert lowe has to go if the club is to be saved.
Football Fan wrote:
Barnacle Bill wrote: All of you people who think Lowe is such an astute business man should note that when he came into the club we were relatively wealthy with major assets in terms of players and other resources, an international reputation, and healthy support. Where are we now? No assets left to strip, a bare playing staff, all our good players gone, 50% of fans no longer going to games, the club in debt and the share price a fraction of what it was and on top of all that we have become a laughing stock. That sounds like pretty astute business management to me. And it is going to get worse for only a naive fool would suggest that our team of older players (and not particularly good ones at that) and a clutch of boys still in the early stages of their development is going to keep us in this division. Not long ago I would get very angry with Lowe\'s leadership now I am heartbroken at what he has done to our great club. Before any one tells me that I am not wanted at St Mary\'s because I am being negative (for which read realistic) about what has happened you better check out whether Lowe agrees with you. I think he wants me to be there for he wants my money despite the fact that I loathe him. I love my club and the team and all my fellow fans. What I don’t like is the way our club has been wrecked and that is down to Lowe. It is impossible for anyone to claim that they love the Saints and in the same breath say they support Lowe (unless of course you are paid to say it as part of your PR brief).
The same applies to dozens of other clubs too, it is the problem with football in general at the moment, the rich clubs get richer, the rest struggle to survive. Blame Murdoch and UEFA before you blame Lowe.
We were part of that Murdoch gravy train and doing well except a very poor series of management decisions by you know who got us pushed off of it. We are a club in many ways similar to Spurs and they have survived and so should we have done. You can put what ever spin and twist you like on it but we are where we are thanks to Rupert Lowe and no one else. His presence at SFC is dividing the clubs fan base and further adding to its problems. You people with your heads in the sand do not know how much he is hated. I go to every game and I cheer and shout fot the team but I do not buy anything other than my ticket. Rupert lowe has to go if the club is to be saved.
Posted by: Saint Stephen, fareham on 3:01pm Thu 24 Jul 08
Lowe out and take the Dutch donkey with you.
Lowe out and take the Dutch donkey with you.
Posted by: Lowe and Behold, St Marys hotseat on 3:03pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Saint Stephen[/bold] wrote:
Lowe out and take the Dutch donkey with you.[/quote] Not "Mavis the donkey"
Saint Stephen wrote:
Lowe out and take the Dutch donkey with you.
Not "Mavis the donkey"
Posted by: Saint stephen, fareham on 3:04pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Sick of the Lowe luvvy spin[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Football Fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Barnacle Bill[/bold] wrote: All of you people who think Lowe is such an astute business man should note that when he came into the club we were relatively wealthy with major assets in terms of players and other resources, an international reputation, and healthy support. Where are we now? No assets left to strip, a bare playing staff, all our good players gone, 50% of fans no longer going to games, the club in debt and the share price a fraction of what it was and on top of all that we have become a laughing stock. That sounds like pretty astute business management to me. And it is going to get worse for only a naive fool would suggest that our team of older players (and not particularly good ones at that) and a clutch of boys still in the early stages of their development is going to keep us in this division. Not long ago I would get very angry with Lowe\'s leadership now I am heartbroken at what he has done to our great club. Before any one tells me that I am not wanted at St Mary\'s because I am being negative (for which read realistic) about what has happened you better check out whether Lowe agrees with you. I think he wants me to be there for he wants my money despite the fact that I loathe him. I love my club and the team and all my fellow fans. What I don’t like is the way our club has been wrecked and that is down to Lowe. It is impossible for anyone to claim that they love the Saints and in the same breath say they support Lowe (unless of course you are paid to say it as part of your PR brief). [/quote] The same applies to dozens of other clubs too, it is the problem with football in general at the moment, the rich clubs get richer, the rest struggle to survive. Blame Murdoch and UEFA before you blame Lowe. [/quote] We were part of that Murdoch gravy train and doing well except a very poor series of management decisions by you know who got us pushed off of it. We are a club in many ways similar to Spurs and they have survived and so should we have done. You can put what ever spin and twist you like on it but we are where we are thanks to Rupert Lowe and no one else. His presence at SFC is dividing the clubs fan base and further adding to its problems. You people with your heads in the sand do not know how much he is hated. I go to every game and I cheer and shout fot the team but I do not buy anything other than my ticket. Rupert lowe has to go if the club is to be saved.[/quote] Beat POST TODAY WELL DONE.
Sick of the Lowe luvvy spin wrote:
Football Fan wrote: Barnacle Bill wrote: All of you people who think Lowe is such an astute business man should note that when he came into the club we were relatively wealthy with major assets in terms of players and other resources, an international reputation, and healthy support. Where are we now? No assets left to strip, a bare playing staff, all our good players gone, 50% of fans no longer going to games, the club in debt and the share price a fraction of what it was and on top of all that we have become a laughing stock. That sounds like pretty astute business management to me. And it is going to get worse for only a naive fool would suggest that our team of older players (and not particularly good ones at that) and a clutch of boys still in the early stages of their development is going to keep us in this division. Not long ago I would get very angry with Lowe\'s leadership now I am heartbroken at what he has done to our great club. Before any one tells me that I am not wanted at St Mary\'s because I am being negative (for which read realistic) about what has happened you better check out whether Lowe agrees with you. I think he wants me to be there for he wants my money despite the fact that I loathe him. I love my club and the team and all my fellow fans. What I don’t like is the way our club has been wrecked and that is down to Lowe. It is impossible for anyone to claim that they love the Saints and in the same breath say they support Lowe (unless of course you are paid to say it as part of your PR brief).
The same applies to dozens of other clubs too, it is the problem with football in general at the moment, the rich clubs get richer, the rest struggle to survive. Blame Murdoch and UEFA before you blame Lowe.
We were part of that Murdoch gravy train and doing well except a very poor series of management decisions by you know who got us pushed off of it. We are a club in many ways similar to Spurs and they have survived and so should we have done. You can put what ever spin and twist you like on it but we are where we are thanks to Rupert Lowe and no one else. His presence at SFC is dividing the clubs fan base and further adding to its problems. You people with your heads in the sand do not know how much he is hated. I go to every game and I cheer and shout fot the team but I do not buy anything other than my ticket. Rupert lowe has to go if the club is to be saved.
Beat POST TODAY WELL DONE.
Posted by: Lowe In on 3:04pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]LOWE OUT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Lowe In[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Question[/bold] wrote: This announcement has seen the club\'s share price drop 10% to 27p. Why did they need to make an announcement now? There\'s no statutory requirement to do so. There is definitely something fishy going on somewhere between Lowe and Wilde. Are they driving down the share price to make it cheaper for them to buy more shares to strengthen their position? Either to profit from a takeover (some hope) or to make it almost impossible to ever get shot of them no matter how bad a job they do? This doesn\'t add up. Once again, our club is being toyed with by people who do not have it\'s best interests at heart.[/quote] Biggest load of b******t ever written on here. The last board were losing money at a rate never seen before and would have bankrupted the club within weeks. Lowe and Wilde have returned and tried their absolute best to stabilise the club and keep it afloat, yet idiots like you STILL cannot see this. [/quote] well done mate you aint got a bloody clue ave ya RIP SAINTS [/quote] I have far more of a clue than you will ever have, as I can take a subjective view on the matter, rather than a blinkered "Lowe Out" attitude.
Lowe has made mistakes in the past, who hasn't, but I feel he has learnt from them.
LOWE OUT wrote:
Lowe In wrote: Question wrote: This announcement has seen the club\'s share price drop 10% to 27p. Why did they need to make an announcement now? There\'s no statutory requirement to do so. There is definitely something fishy going on somewhere between Lowe and Wilde. Are they driving down the share price to make it cheaper for them to buy more shares to strengthen their position? Either to profit from a takeover (some hope) or to make it almost impossible to ever get shot of them no matter how bad a job they do? This doesn\'t add up. Once again, our club is being toyed with by people who do not have it\'s best interests at heart.
Biggest load of b******t ever written on here. The last board were losing money at a rate never seen before and would have bankrupted the club within weeks. Lowe and Wilde have returned and tried their absolute best to stabilise the club and keep it afloat, yet idiots like you STILL cannot see this.
well done mate you aint got a bloody clue ave ya RIP SAINTS
I have far more of a clue than you will ever have, as I can take a subjective view on the matter, rather than a blinkered "Lowe Out" attitude.
Lowe has made mistakes in the past, who hasn't, but I feel he has learnt from them.
Posted by: the vengeful cabbage, i may be green but i'm also cabbage looking on 3:08pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Accountant[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]the vengeful cabbage[/bold] wrote: Breaking news, I just lost a pound down the back of the sofa! This is more important than the fact that some idiot accountant let the club get itself into this mess. And still nobody has explained how the club managed to loose the £20million + in transfer fees. We are being taken for idiots by some beetroot faced arse biscuit.[/quote] Not sure about this. With rising costs in terms of bank borrowings and inflation.. i can hazard a guess where the money went. Did you think SFC had money to spare when they built the stadium?[/quote] So why didn't some bright spark turn round and say "well actually i've analysed our predicted income aginst probable outoings for the four year period post relegation and the sh1t is about to hit the fan?". Instead beetroot faced kn0b head just went on ahead insituting a ploan of constant squad regeneration and trying to bring in big name signings that were asking too much for wages. The point is this, Who the hell does Rupert Lowe think he is? I'm sick and tired of his poncing around all lah-dee-dah like pretending anybody likes him. It scares me to think that the board allowed him to form Southampton leisure holdings because it means now we cant get rid of him and his spineless yes men.
Accountant wrote:
the vengeful cabbage wrote: Breaking news, I just lost a pound down the back of the sofa! This is more important than the fact that some idiot accountant let the club get itself into this mess. And still nobody has explained how the club managed to loose the £20million + in transfer fees. We are being taken for idiots by some beetroot faced arse biscuit.
Not sure about this. With rising costs in terms of bank borrowings and inflation.. i can hazard a guess where the money went. Did you think SFC had money to spare when they built the stadium?
So why didn't some bright spark turn round and say "well actually i've analysed our predicted income aginst probable outoings for the four year period post relegation and the sh1t is about to hit the fan?". Instead beetroot faced kn0b head just went on ahead insituting a ploan of constant squad regeneration and trying to bring in big name signings that were asking too much for wages. The point is this, Who the hell does Rupert Lowe think he is? I'm sick and tired of his poncing around all lah-dee-dah like pretending anybody likes him. It scares me to think that the board allowed him to form Southampton leisure holdings because it means now we cant get rid of him and his spineless yes men.
Posted by: Saints Fan on 3:09pm Thu 24 Jul 08
If only people could devote as much energy supporting Saints as they waste hating Lowe and Pompey we would be in the Champions League.
If only people could devote as much energy supporting Saints as they waste hating Lowe and Pompey we would be in the Champions League.
Posted by: Would we? on 3:17pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Saints Fan[/bold] wrote:
If only people could devote as much energy supporting Saints as they waste hating Lowe and Pompey we would be in the Champions League.[/quote] No we wouldn't.
If only people would put as much effort into poking badgers with spoons we would be Kings of planet Venus.
Saints Fan wrote:
If only people could devote as much energy supporting Saints as they waste hating Lowe and Pompey we would be in the Champions League.
No we wouldn't.
If only people would put as much effort into poking badgers with spoons we would be Kings of planet Venus.
Posted by: saint stephen, Fareham on 3:18pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Saints Fan[/bold] wrote:
If only people could devote as much energy supporting Saints as they waste hating Lowe and Pompey we would be in the Champions League.[/quote] We do support saints its just Lowe and his Dutch donkey we dontwant at our club. Buck up or its R.I.P. Saints
Their wont be any club or support left.
Saints Fan wrote:
If only people could devote as much energy supporting Saints as they waste hating Lowe and Pompey we would be in the Champions League.
We do support saints its just Lowe and his Dutch donkey we dontwant at our club. Buck up or its R.I.P. Saints
Their wont be any club or support left.
Posted by: Egomaniac, Southampton on 3:19pm Thu 24 Jul 08
vengeful cabbage:
Did you by any chance go to the same educational establishment as Saint Stephen?
It's just that there are several similarities in your ability to use abusive language and name calling. Says a great deal about you and your prejudicial attitude to people who may just be a bit more successful and affluent than you.
If you can't debate without recourse to abuse, then please don't bother - you show yourself up to be what you are - an ignorant bigot!
vengeful cabbage:
Did you by any chance go to the same educational establishment as Saint Stephen?
It's just that there are several similarities in your ability to use abusive language and name calling. Says a great deal about you and your prejudicial attitude to people who may just be a bit more successful and affluent than you.
If you can't debate without recourse to abuse, then please don't bother - you show yourself up to be what you are - an ignorant bigot!
Posted by: Blind Fool on 3:20pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Saint Compo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Blind Fool[/bold] wrote: I would rather have the club in administration than have that @rse running the club. Lowe is a cancer that is killing SFC.[/quote] Your pen name says it all. Tosh! At last we again have a Chairman who understands the financial aspects of running a football club. Without his return you wouldn't have a team to support this time next year (assuming you really are a Saints supporter, Blind Fool). We should get behind the new management team - in the boardroom and on the field. The operating loss to be reported for the year just ended is totally unsustainable. This season is crucial for the club. Success on the pitch will bring in the crowds. But we mustn't overexpect for the coming season. I would be very happy with a top ten finish (and hopefully without flirting with relegation at any stage!). More important will be signs that the youngsters are coming through and can form the base for a promotion team in a couple of years time. Support your team and be patient. The youngsters must not be demoralised by whingeing fans. COYR[/quote] Ha ha ha..
"without his (lowe) return you wouldn't have a team to support this time next year"
Funniest thing ever posted on here, by a country mile.
Yes, Rupert Lowe has single handedly saved Southampton Football Club. The evidence is just so overwhelming isn't it.
Saint Compo wrote:
Blind Fool wrote: I would rather have the club in administration than have that @rse running the club. Lowe is a cancer that is killing SFC.
Your pen name says it all. Tosh! At last we again have a Chairman who understands the financial aspects of running a football club. Without his return you wouldn't have a team to support this time next year (assuming you really are a Saints supporter, Blind Fool). We should get behind the new management team - in the boardroom and on the field. The operating loss to be reported for the year just ended is totally unsustainable. This season is crucial for the club. Success on the pitch will bring in the crowds. But we mustn't overexpect for the coming season. I would be very happy with a top ten finish (and hopefully without flirting with relegation at any stage!). More important will be signs that the youngsters are coming through and can form the base for a promotion team in a couple of years time. Support your team and be patient. The youngsters must not be demoralised by whingeing fans. COYR
Ha ha ha..
"without his (lowe) return you wouldn't have a team to support this time next year"
Funniest thing ever posted on here, by a country mile.
Yes, Rupert Lowe has single handedly saved Southampton Football Club. The evidence is just so overwhelming isn't it.
Posted by: ? on 3:22pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]saint stephen[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Saints Fan[/bold] wrote: If only people could devote as much energy supporting Saints as they waste hating Lowe and Pompey we would be in the Champions League.[/quote] We do support saints its just Lowe and his Dutch donkey we dontwant at our club. Buck up or its R.I.P. Saints Their wont be any club or support left.[/quote] Who do you want instead?
saint stephen wrote:
Saints Fan wrote: If only people could devote as much energy supporting Saints as they waste hating Lowe and Pompey we would be in the Champions League.
We do support saints its just Lowe and his Dutch donkey we dontwant at our club. Buck up or its R.I.P. Saints Their wont be any club or support left.
Who do you want instead?
Posted by: the vengeful cabbage, at least i dont smell as bad as this guy on 3:23pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote:
vengeful cabbage: Did you by any chance go to the same educational establishment as Saint Stephen? It's just that there are several similarities in your ability to use abusive language and name calling. Says a great deal about you and your prejudicial attitude to people who may just be a bit more successful and affluent than you. If you can't debate without recourse to abuse, then please don't bother - you show yourself up to be what you are - an ignorant bigot![/quote] Oh sorry did my opinon differ from yours? Just back from Zimabwe or are we still calling it Rhoddesia?
It says a lot when somebody calls a person a Bigot for expressing an opinion. I dont like Rupert Lowe, get over it! tw@t!
Egomaniac wrote:
vengeful cabbage: Did you by any chance go to the same educational establishment as Saint Stephen? It's just that there are several similarities in your ability to use abusive language and name calling. Says a great deal about you and your prejudicial attitude to people who may just be a bit more successful and affluent than you. If you can't debate without recourse to abuse, then please don't bother - you show yourself up to be what you are - an ignorant bigot!
Oh sorry did my opinon differ from yours? Just back from Zimabwe or are we still calling it Rhoddesia?
It says a lot when somebody calls a person a Bigot for expressing an opinion. I dont like Rupert Lowe, get over it! tw@t!
Posted by: Egomaniac, Southampton on 3:26pm Thu 24 Jul 08
I am neither anti or pro Rupert Lowe, but I have to say that reading through all the posts above the pro-Lowes do seem able to discuss the situation in clear English and good grammar. The anti-Lowes only seem to be able to express themselves in poor English, poor spelling and the constant use of abusive insulting language.
I am rapidly becoming pro-Lowe, as I would never want to be associated with some of the ignoramus's posting on here who oppose him.
God forbid that any of their ilk should ever have an official say in the affairs of SFC!!
I am neither anti or pro Rupert Lowe, but I have to say that reading through all the posts above the pro-Lowes do seem able to discuss the situation in clear English and good grammar. The anti-Lowes only seem to be able to express themselves in poor English, poor spelling and the constant use of abusive insulting language.
I am rapidly becoming pro-Lowe, as I would never want to be associated with some of the ignoramus's posting on here who oppose him.
God forbid that any of their ilk should ever have an official say in the affairs of SFC!!
Posted by: Egomaniac, Southampton on 3:30pm Thu 24 Jul 08
vengeful cabbage:
Thank you for proving my point - still using abusive language because of your total inability to conduct an argument.
You really do make yourself look very small.
By the way what has Rhodesia and Zimbabwe got to do with the argument?
Pathetic.
vengeful cabbage:
Thank you for proving my point - still using abusive language because of your total inability to conduct an argument.
You really do make yourself look very small.
By the way what has Rhodesia and Zimbabwe got to do with the argument?
Pathetic.
Posted by: the Vengeful Cabbage, Cabbage Cabbage Cabbage Cabbage mushroom on 3:38pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote:
vengeful cabbage: Thank you for proving my point - still using abusive language because of your total inability to conduct an argument. You really do make yourself look very small. By the way what has Rhodesia and Zimbabwe got to do with the argument? Pathetic.[/quote] Thank you for showing yourself to be completely ignorant of any history, art, or social culture that has occured outside of St Marys in the last 50 years. It did make me laugh neerly as much as your lack of Geographical knowledge. Pr1ck
Egomaniac wrote:
vengeful cabbage: Thank you for proving my point - still using abusive language because of your total inability to conduct an argument. You really do make yourself look very small. By the way what has Rhodesia and Zimbabwe got to do with the argument? Pathetic.
Thank you for showing yourself to be completely ignorant of any history, art, or social culture that has occured outside of St Marys in the last 50 years. It did make me laugh neerly as much as your lack of Geographical knowledge. Pr1ck
Posted by: Barnacle Bill wearing his specs that, see through pr hype and other Lowe tosh on 3:39pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote:
I am neither anti or pro Rupert Lowe, but I have to say that reading through all the posts above the pro-Lowes do seem able to discuss the situation in clear English and good grammar. The anti-Lowes only seem to be able to express themselves in poor English, poor spelling and the constant use of abusive insulting language. I am rapidly becoming pro-Lowe, as I would never want to be associated with some of the ignoramus\'s posting on here who oppose him. God forbid that any of their ilk should ever have an official say in the affairs of SFC!![/quote] So what comment do you have to make on my posting? You may claim to be sitting on the fence but your analysis is inaccurate. Spend a few minutes reading them all again and you will find that the Lowe supporters come out with meaningless poorly thought through claims. So tell me the errors with my posting. The fact that I share a love of SFC with people who are unable to analyse the flaws in over a decade of Lowe’s leadership is very worrying.
Egomaniac wrote:
I am neither anti or pro Rupert Lowe, but I have to say that reading through all the posts above the pro-Lowes do seem able to discuss the situation in clear English and good grammar. The anti-Lowes only seem to be able to express themselves in poor English, poor spelling and the constant use of abusive insulting language. I am rapidly becoming pro-Lowe, as I would never want to be associated with some of the ignoramus\'s posting on here who oppose him. God forbid that any of their ilk should ever have an official say in the affairs of SFC!!
So what comment do you have to make on my posting? You may claim to be sitting on the fence but your analysis is inaccurate. Spend a few minutes reading them all again and you will find that the Lowe supporters come out with meaningless poorly thought through claims. So tell me the errors with my posting. The fact that I share a love of SFC with people who are unable to analyse the flaws in over a decade of Lowe’s leadership is very worrying.
Posted by: Stan, Nursling on 3:40pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote:
I am neither anti or pro Rupert Lowe, but I have to say that reading through all the posts above the pro-Lowes do seem able to discuss the situation in clear English and good grammar. The anti-Lowes only seem to be able to express themselves in poor English, poor spelling and the constant use of abusive insulting language. I am rapidly becoming pro-Lowe, as I would never want to be associated with some of the ignoramus's posting on here who oppose him. God forbid that any of their ilk should ever have an official say in the affairs of SFC!![/quote] That is because most of the anti-Lowe lot cannot form an opinion of their own and prefer to join in with the rest of the mob. If they took their blinkers off and gave the guy a chance thay may appreciate exactly how much time and effort has been put into trying to re-stabilise the club.
Of course it is far easier to just be a sheep and go with the mob, but then you see 8 year old kids joining in, who have no idea who Lowe is let alone what he has, or hasn't done.
I prefer to sit back and make my own choice. I will be watching Saints for the 43 consecutive season this year, lets hope there are many more to come.
I went to Cardiff in 2003 and didnt see too many fans calling for anyones head then, a think the fact that we were relegated was the catalyst to many of out so-called fans jumping ship and Lowe was just an easy scapegoat to blame for their lack of attendance.
Up the Saints.
Egomaniac wrote:
I am neither anti or pro Rupert Lowe, but I have to say that reading through all the posts above the pro-Lowes do seem able to discuss the situation in clear English and good grammar. The anti-Lowes only seem to be able to express themselves in poor English, poor spelling and the constant use of abusive insulting language. I am rapidly becoming pro-Lowe, as I would never want to be associated with some of the ignoramus's posting on here who oppose him. God forbid that any of their ilk should ever have an official say in the affairs of SFC!!
That is because most of the anti-Lowe lot cannot form an opinion of their own and prefer to join in with the rest of the mob. If they took their blinkers off and gave the guy a chance thay may appreciate exactly how much time and effort has been put into trying to re-stabilise the club.
Of course it is far easier to just be a sheep and go with the mob, but then you see 8 year old kids joining in, who have no idea who Lowe is let alone what he has, or hasn't done.
I prefer to sit back and make my own choice. I will be watching Saints for the 43 consecutive season this year, lets hope there are many more to come.
I went to Cardiff in 2003 and didnt see too many fans calling for anyones head then, a think the fact that we were relegated was the catalyst to many of out so-called fans jumping ship and Lowe was just an easy scapegoat to blame for their lack of attendance.
Up the Saints.
Posted by: wiltshire saint, work on 3:41pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]?[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]saint stephen[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Saints Fan[/bold] wrote: If only people could devote as much energy supporting Saints as they waste hating Lowe and Pompey we would be in the Champions League.[/quote] We do support saints its just Lowe and his Dutch donkey we dontwant at our club. Buck up or its R.I.P. Saints Their wont be any club or support left.[/quote] Who do you want instead?
[/quote] Good call! What alternative do Saints have at the moment Saint Stephen, are you going to buy the club?
? wrote:
saint stephen wrote:
Saints Fan wrote: If only people could devote as much energy supporting Saints as they waste hating Lowe and Pompey we would be in the Champions League.
We do support saints its just Lowe and his Dutch donkey we dontwant at our club. Buck up or its R.I.P. Saints Their wont be any club or support left.
Who do you want instead?
Good call! What alternative do Saints have at the moment Saint Stephen, are you going to buy the club?
Posted by: saint stephen, fareham on 3:45pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]The TRUTH is out there[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Blind Fool[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Saint Compo[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Blind Fool[/bold] wrote: I would rather have the club in administration than have that @rse running the club. Lowe is a cancer that is killing SFC.[/quote] Your pen name says it all. Tosh! At last we again have a Chairman who understands the financial aspects of running a football club. Without his return you wouldn't have a team to support this time next year (assuming you really are a Saints supporter, Blind Fool). We should get behind the new management team - in the boardroom and on the field. The operating loss to be reported for the year just ended is totally unsustainable. This season is crucial for the club. Success on the pitch will bring in the crowds. But we mustn't overexpect for the coming season. I would be very happy with a top ten finish (and hopefully without flirting with relegation at any stage!). More important will be signs that the youngsters are coming through and can form the base for a promotion team in a couple of years time. Support your team and be patient. The youngsters must not be demoralised by whingeing fans. COYR[/quote] Ha ha ha.. "without his (lowe) return you wouldn't have a team to support this time next year" Funniest thing ever posted on here, by a country mile. Yes, Rupert Lowe has single handedly saved Southampton Football Club. The evidence is just so overwhelming isn't it.[/quote] Not single-handily no, Wilde has also done a great deal of work digging us out the s**t that Crouch and Trant buried us in. We would have started the season in administration with points deducted, how many fans would have given up on the club then, plenty have dissappeared since we were relegated but prefer to blame Lowe for there fair-weatherness.[/quote] [bold]bold[/bold] Last game, full house, NO Lowe enough said. Good manager (NP), Rupet even got rid of him fans favorite.
The TRUTH is out there wrote:
Blind Fool wrote: Saint Compo wrote: Blind Fool wrote: I would rather have the club in administration than have that @rse running the club. Lowe is a cancer that is killing SFC.
Your pen name says it all. Tosh! At last we again have a Chairman who understands the financial aspects of running a football club. Without his return you wouldn't have a team to support this time next year (assuming you really are a Saints supporter, Blind Fool). We should get behind the new management team - in the boardroom and on the field. The operating loss to be reported for the year just ended is totally unsustainable. This season is crucial for the club. Success on the pitch will bring in the crowds. But we mustn't overexpect for the coming season. I would be very happy with a top ten finish (and hopefully without flirting with relegation at any stage!). More important will be signs that the youngsters are coming through and can form the base for a promotion team in a couple of years time. Support your team and be patient. The youngsters must not be demoralised by whingeing fans. COYR
Ha ha ha.. "without his (lowe) return you wouldn't have a team to support this time next year" Funniest thing ever posted on here, by a country mile. Yes, Rupert Lowe has single handedly saved Southampton Football Club. The evidence is just so overwhelming isn't it.
Not single-handily no, Wilde has also done a great deal of work digging us out the s**t that Crouch and Trant buried us in. We would have started the season in administration with points deducted, how many fans would have given up on the club then, plenty have dissappeared since we were relegated but prefer to blame Lowe for there fair-weatherness.
Last game, full house, NO Lowe enough said. Good manager (NP), Rupet even got rid of him fans favorite.
Posted by: Who cares, if SFC goes bust? I don't. on 3:46pm Thu 24 Jul 08
Southampton FC is not worth saving. It has become like a failing school. It needs to be shut down, rebranded and completely new staff appointed before it starts trading again. If you disagree then tell me why we should care if it is saved. I certainly don't want to save it to line Lowe's pockets and if it were to close life moves on their are other things to do.
Southampton FC is not worth saving. It has become like a failing school. It needs to be shut down, rebranded and completely new staff appointed before it starts trading again. If you disagree then tell me why we should care if it is saved. I certainly don't want to save it to line Lowe's pockets and if it were to close life moves on their are other things to do.
Posted by: Egomaniac, Southampton on 3:46pm Thu 24 Jul 08
Stan, Nursling - Wiltshire Saint
Good posts - you both help to prove my point. No doubt we shall shortly receive more abuse and name calling for daring to be objective with our arguments.
Time for tea I think.
Stan, Nursling - Wiltshire Saint
Good posts - you both help to prove my point. No doubt we shall shortly receive more abuse and name calling for daring to be objective with our arguments.
Time for tea I think.
Posted by: Georgieboy, london on 3:47pm Thu 24 Jul 08
I hear that we are going to sell off our final asset to the scum down the road ie the training ground, That should make up the shortfall and humiliate us further
I hear that we are going to sell off our final asset to the scum down the road ie the training ground, That should make up the shortfall and humiliate us further
Posted by: The TRUTH is out there on 3:50pm Thu 24 Jul 08
That will be the same manager (NP) who then demanded his salary was tripled even though he knew we were entering administration? The ground was full because even though the board had spent the entire money that we had in the kitty we were playing the last 90 minutes to stay in the Championship (or division 2 in old money)
That will be the same manager (NP) who then demanded his salary was tripled even though he knew we were entering administration? The ground was full because even though the board had spent the entire money that we had in the kitty we were playing the last 90 minutes to stay in the Championship (or division 2 in old money)
Posted by: SFC76, Laughing at you on 3:50pm Thu 24 Jul 08
I think my negative action against Wilde , Lowe and Portaloo is starting to take effect.
We have forced Lowe to come clean on how he has been fleecing the club by publicly admitting the club is in a financial.
All we need is for you fair weather fans to take your head out of the sand and join the campaign to get rid of Lowe, wilde and portaloo. "Oh Happy Days" the clubs going into administration
I think my negative action against Wilde , Lowe and Portaloo is starting to take effect.
We have forced Lowe to come clean on how he has been fleecing the club by publicly admitting the club is in a financial.
All we need is for you fair weather fans to take your head out of the sand and join the campaign to get rid of Lowe, wilde and portaloo. "Oh Happy Days" the clubs going into administration
Posted by: Saint Stephen, Fareham on 3:53pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]wiltshire saint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]?[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]saint stephen[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Saints Fan[/bold] wrote: If only people could devote as much energy supporting Saints as they waste hating Lowe and Pompey we would be in the Champions League.[/quote] We do support saints its just Lowe and his Dutch donkey we dontwant at our club. Buck up or its R.I.P. Saints Their wont be any club or support left.[/quote] Who do you want instead? [/quote] Good call! What alternative do Saints have at the moment Saint Stephen, are you going to buy the club?[/quote] People offered all rejected by Lowe, best check your facts. Wont be anything left soon including the fans, home games will be played to empty ground.
wiltshire saint wrote:
? wrote: saint stephen wrote: Saints Fan wrote: If only people could devote as much energy supporting Saints as they waste hating Lowe and Pompey we would be in the Champions League.
We do support saints its just Lowe and his Dutch donkey we dontwant at our club. Buck up or its R.I.P. Saints Their wont be any club or support left.
Who do you want instead?
Good call! What alternative do Saints have at the moment Saint Stephen, are you going to buy the club?
People offered all rejected by Lowe, best check your facts. Wont be anything left soon including the fans, home games will be played to empty ground.
Posted by: ?????, very confused on 3:54pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]SFC76[/bold] wrote:
I think my negative action against Wilde , Lowe and Portaloo is starting to take effect. We have forced Lowe to come clean on how he has been fleecing the club by publicly admitting the club is in a financial. All we need is for you fair weather fans to take your head out of the sand and join the campaign to get rid of Lowe, wilde and portaloo. "Oh Happy Days" the clubs going into administration [/quote] ?????????
SFC76 wrote:
I think my negative action against Wilde , Lowe and Portaloo is starting to take effect. We have forced Lowe to come clean on how he has been fleecing the club by publicly admitting the club is in a financial. All we need is for you fair weather fans to take your head out of the sand and join the campaign to get rid of Lowe, wilde and portaloo. "Oh Happy Days" the clubs going into administration
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Posted by: Insider on 3:57pm Thu 24 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Saint Stephen[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]wiltshire saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]?[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]saint stephen[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Saints Fan[/bold] wrote: If only people could devote as much energy supporting Saints as they waste hating Lowe and Pompey we would be in the Champions League.[/quote] We do support saints its just Lowe and his Dutch donkey we dontwant at our club. Buck up or its R.I.P. Saints Their wont be any club or support left.[/quote] Who do you want instead? [/quote] Good call! What alternative do Saints have at the moment Saint Stephen, are you going to buy the club?[/quote] People offered all rejected by Lowe, best check your facts. Wont be anything left soon including the fans, home games will be played to empty ground.[/quote] Oh you get all your information from The Saints Forum, that explains it.
The only serious offer on the table was the hedge-fund lot that got Coventry instead, and where did they finish last year?
Saint Stephen wrote:
wiltshire saint wrote: ? wrote: saint stephen wrote: Saints Fan wrote: If only people could devote as much energy supporting Saints as they waste hating Lowe and Pompey we would be in the Champions League.
We do support saints its just Lowe and his Dutch donkey we dontwant at our club. Buck up or its R.I.P. Saints Their wont be any club or support left.
Who do you want instead?
Good call! What alternative do Saints have at the moment Saint Stephen, are you going to buy the club?
People offered all rejected by Lowe, best check your facts. Wont be anything left soon including the fans, home games will be played to empty ground.
Oh you get all your information from The Saints Forum, that explains it.
The only serious offer on the table was the hedge-fund lot that got Coventry instead, and where did they finish last year?
Posted by: Egomaniac, Southampton on 4:04pm Thu 24 Jul 08
Vengeful Cabbage:
There you go again - cannot reply to me without the use of offensive invectives. Every time you post you display a complete lack of literacy.
Just for your information, I spent 8 years in what was Rhodesia, and was there when it became Zimbabwe. I then moved to Kenya for two years before being repatriated to the UK. Secondly, I am a professional musician, so have a considerable artistic background. What's your travel history? Brighton?
As far as culture is concerned, I am pleasantly suprised that you can spell it.
Have you noticed that I have replied to your post without once using offensive words, and without once calling you names. Perhaps you should try the same.
Vengeful Cabbage:
There you go again - cannot reply to me without the use of offensive invectives. Every time you post you display a complete lack of literacy.
Just for your information, I spent 8 years in what was Rhodesia, and was there when it became Zimbabwe. I then moved to Kenya for two years before being repatriated to the UK. Secondly, I am a professional musician, so have a considerable artistic background. What's your travel history? Brighton?
As far as culture is concerned, I am pleasantly suprised that you can spell it.
Have you noticed that I have replied to your post without once using offensive words, and without once calling you names. Perhaps you should try the same.
Posted by: Seeker of the truth, about SFC on 4:10pm Thu 24 Jul 08
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